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Dᴀɴᴇᴄᴀ Wᴀssᴇʀᴍᴀɴ ([personal profile] advocacy) wrote2013-11-27 03:11 pm

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I've seen a lot of discussion lately about whether or not people on the Barge being too cavalier about death.

Honestly, I don't know if that's true or not. I haven't been around long enough and I don't think I know enough of you to say. I also wouldn't try to tell anybody how they view death. But I guess I'm just wondering what makes people think that? Or what about the Barge would make people start to treat death less seriously?

I guess some could make the argument that coming back over and over again makes it hard to see death as a big, final chapter or the next big chapter depending on your theological or philosophical standpoint. But I know there are some ideas surrounding death that says we do just come back over and over again as different people or even different creatures. And sometimes we remember past lives or past deaths. Or, I guess if you have a more negative outlook, that we're doomed to repeat the same patterns over and over again across lifetimes.

[A pause.]

I guess from my perspective, people just get numb to death when it happens all the time or they stop caring about what happens to them. They just give up. I don't know if that's anything really particular to the Barge.

[Her smile is wry. There's definitely people that have come and gone in her life at home that could fit the profile of just not caring about death anymore.]

I could also be completely wrong, too.
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[personal profile] fireincarnate 2013-12-01 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
We have therapists - Charles and Mark, and Zane and I are going to start learning.

But... [She shakes her head.] You need to want that kind of help. And I can understand people being wary, or stubborn.
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[personal profile] fireincarnate 2013-12-07 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
[A wry smile.] Pretty much.

I think it's worse here, too. I mean - at home, bad things can happen any time, too. [There's a hollow amusement in her eyes.] But we have a little more control over it.

Usually.
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[personal profile] fireincarnate 2013-12-12 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
We'd have to understand them, first, and the Admiral isn't exactly talkative.
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[personal profile] fireincarnate 2013-12-17 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
[A faint snort.] Pretty much.

I mean, things could definitely be worse. [Look at what Toshiko put them through, look at that other Barge.] But that doesn't make it any less frustrating.
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[personal profile] fireincarnate 2013-12-19 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Never does, I guess. Not really. [She sounds weary, now.]
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[personal profile] fireincarnate 2013-12-24 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
No, it's fine. [But she's silent, for a moment, lips pursing slightly.]

At first, I just - leaving, permanently, felt like giving up. Like I was abandoning the people who couldn't. And - I did graduate someone, eventually. I gave him his life back. And the chance to do that - it seemed worth it.

[A slight, brittle smile.] I did get tired of being jerked around, though. Of getting hurt. So I figured - maybe if I went home for a while, if I came back stronger...
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[personal profile] fireincarnate 2013-12-28 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
[A bleak, quiet laugh.] Yes.

It didn't go exactly the way I'd planned. [She shakes her head.] But I guess most things don't.
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[personal profile] fireincarnate 2013-12-29 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
[Jean attempts a truer sort of smile; it half works.]

We have to just roll with it. [And it sounds so absurdly simple, that way.]
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[personal profile] fireincarnate 2014-01-01 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah.

That's one thing about the Barge, you...learn to adapt.
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[personal profile] astraia 2014-01-04 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
It steamrolls right over you.
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[personal profile] fireincarnate 2014-01-06 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah.

At least a lot of us are used to that sort of thing.
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[personal profile] fireincarnate 2014-01-08 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I don't blame you. [She wishes life could be simpler, easier - that people could just be happy, no matter who or what they were.]

How long have you been on the Barge?
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[personal profile] fireincarnate 2014-01-09 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
It's hard to remember being that new. [It's been years for her, on and off the ship.] It's...it's easy to lose focus, to get fed up. You need to old on to the idea that you are making a difference, even if it's hard.

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